Entire José Ruba presentation "Echoes of the Holocaust" hosted by Choose Life McGill -- Oct. 6, 2009
UPDATE-3: Welcome National Post readers.
UPDATE-2: Choose Life digs its heels in.
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Also, according to Choose Life president Natalie Fohl, tonight, SSMU VP Clubs & Services Sarah Olle and Deputy Provost Morton Mendelson are hosting a Controversial Events Townhall, Thursday October 8, at 5:30pm - 7:00pm in the Lev Bukhman room of the SSMU Building (2nd floor, 3480 McTavish). You can see the different reactions of the SSMU and Professor Mendelson to our event, "Echoes of the Holocaust" here. Clearly, they have different opinions on free speech--please come to share yours tonight.
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Here's the entire series of 19 10-minute videos of the Oct. 6 disrupted presentation of Jojo Ruba's "Echoes of the Holocaust" presented by the Canadian Centre for Bioethical Reform and hosted by Choose Life McGill.
(Police arrive at part 8)




Speechless
Moral relativism serves up yet another loud, resounding slap in the face of reason.
This is a University?
This is a University? I thought a University was a place of higher education where one searched for knowledge and truth. McGill University should be ashamed of itself for producing such uncivilized, impolite and shallow minded students. No wonder they couldn’t find anyone willing to debate Mr. Ruba, most of these pro-choice representatives probably don’t even know what a debate is. It was nice however to see Mr. Ruba and the pro-life representatives behaving with such calm dignity and civility towards these young barbarians.
McGill Anarchy, A Satanic Strategy for Ending Civilization
Pure strategy of New Age Satanism!
Obviously these immature
Obviously these immature college students have no argument against the Choose Life group. They can't allow others to speak their mind because somewhere deep inside they know they are wrong and just can't handle the truth. If it were one of my children I would have stopped paying their tuition on the spot. This is what higher education is????? Disrespectful, selfish immature children who want what they want when they want it without any consequences and demand approval of their actions. They are not my children but they are part of the human race and I feel very ashamed for them. One day they are going to look back and see themselves as they are today. It is sad what our young people have become.
Disrespectful illmannered
The students' disrespectful/ ill-mannered actions only showed they cannot tackle valid arguments against the Choose Life Group. Instead of calm and intelligent discussion, they showed more of their emotional side as deep down inside they do not want to acknowledge the truth. I totally concur with "Obviously these immature" comment submitted by Anonymous.
On another note, I am shocked at how powerless the school security guards were. The students were disrupting a scheduled presentation. If it is their right to be present ( no matter if they agree to it or not ); if they chose to be there, and they start their disruptive and disrespectful behaviour, the security guards should have the power to remove them out of the room. Also the police officer called upon to help should not have given leniency to those protesters disrupting the presentation.Once the students acted out again with yelling and screaming, they should have just been removed out of the room. To have a right to stay and listen is one thing , to start chaos is another. Wow and another thing... where does respect come in? The students don't seem to have any for the security guards nor for the police officer. I can see where perhaps the university will turn out "intellectuals" without manners and respect for their fellow human being. It's about time now for schools and universities to go back and help mold decent respectable students and graduates and not be lax about it.
Perhaps start by instilling respect on authorities, on properties and fellow students with consequences if ignored.
It is no wonder why this world is what it is now.
This is what happens when moral relativism takes over
When there's no longer any moral truth (which is what these children are taught in their feminism and gender theory courses), there's no way to debate as a means of attaining to that truth. Rather, you simply try to overpower, by whatever means are at your disposal, the moral opinions that you happen not to like. Which is what we're seeing here in spades.
McGill Uni Nazis?
From here in Australia I really don't know a lot about US, but having come across this youtube clip, I know a lot about McGill Uni. There is no freedom of speech, at least, there is no protection for freedom of speech at McGill. I thought freedom of speech was one reason why US fought those wars? There are about EIGHT people who are so scared about whatever this man had to say, that they are desperate to stop him from saying it. And there are security guards who are powerless to stop this ANARCHY. Is that because those who preside over this uni are Nazi-like people?
Hi, anonymous, Just to make
Hi, anonymous, Just to make things clear, McGill University is in Canada, not the United States. In Canada, freedom of speech is actually not a right, and hate speech is against the law. In addition, this event contravened McGill policy for student rights AND the student union's equity policy which is why the student union voted to cancel it. The administration vetoed the vote of the student union, probably partly because they are afraid of getting sued by the influencial organization who was presenting the event (the canadian centre for bioethical reform). This is why students felt they had to take things into their own hands and shut down the event, given that they had exhausted all other options for fairly preventing the unconstitutional (in terms of the school's constitutio) event from taking place on campus. In the video, students can be heard multiple times telling the organizers that they are welcome to take the event somewhere else, since it contravenes the school's equity policy. The goal of the disrupters is then not to stifle discussion, but rather to move the event off campus (since it is not in accordance with aforementioned campus equity policy). Also, the event was taking place somewhat in secret, since campus media had been misled and told by the organizers that the event was cancelled. The students who are singing are NOT staging a pro-choice protest. Rather, they are intentionally being obnoxious in order to prevent the event from taking place. <snip> The event is a grab for media attention and a grab for legitimacy for the organization. The club was granted club status on the condition that they not show graphic abortion imagery, and they have since gone back on their word.
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Rather than delete the whole comment above, I've <snipped> a potentially very problematic, unsubstantiated (at least here) claim.
Also, Free Speech is, of course, protected in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. There are exceptions for "hate", but the definition of hate is much more narrow in law than it is in the feverish minds of our campus activists...
Children who've always had their way
Rather than using the N-word #2, I would instead say that these protesters are simply spoiled children, whose world views and opinions have always been cherished and called "special" and have never been opposed. They've come to see their schools as big pink nurseries instead of the centres of sometimes painful debate they ought to be. I hope this incident gets people in the McGill administration thinking about tweaking some rules and regulations to allow debate to come back to the university.
That was EXACTLY my
That was EXACTLY my perception, also. They've always been able to "I just have one more question..." their way out of everything and for some insane reason, no one checked it when they were young and it's carried over to now and even the ADULTS don't know what to do.